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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby Mosaegir » 09 May 2016, 21:05

Anthony T Brown wrote:Maybe building a PC is my Summer time "off season" hobby. Will end up taking me years.

Don't stress it. I've been building PCs since I was 11, and not screwed anything up too badly! (Thanks ebuyer, for accepting that return no questions asked when I accidentally tore a capacitor off the motherboard with my screwdriver :lol: )

The number of guides available out there for free on the internet, both in text and in visual form, should be more than enough to take even the most giddy of newbs through the process, especially when there are such great modern things as tool-less cases and the like (I say nothing about whether there's a tool on the outside of the case or not). And as April said, so many of the parts will literally only fit one way and no other, unless you're a gibbon with super-strength who forces it until it breaks. HOWEVER having said that, I've had a few situations where I think I'm about to break something, only to check and realise I'm doing it right and just needed more force - it is fundamentally a very simple process, as long as you've bought compatible parts, but don't risk snapping something you just spend a weeks wages on because you're too embarrassed to ask as everyone was saying it was so easy anyone could do it.

Like someone else, I also use an old gen i3, but teamed with a GTX970. Tears through anything at a stable 60fps on high settings, although the card is bottlenecked by the CPU in some applications, so a laptop i5 should be more than capable as long as the integrated graphics are officially supported.
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby craighypheno » 09 May 2016, 21:12

I just followed the instructions on the motherboard, looked up a few videos and Googled a few things and voila, I managed to build something which hasn't exploded since.

It's worth building it yourself though. You do learn quite a lot just from that alone. It was pretty fun to do actually.
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby Mosaegir » 09 May 2016, 21:15

craighypheno wrote:I just followed the instructions on the motherboard

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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby ajokay » 10 May 2016, 08:16

My GTX 670 is almost 4 years old now. Time for an upgrade I think!

GTX 1080!!!!!!

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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby tonyandmargaret » 24 Jun 2016, 06:12

I've just about run out of space on my 1TB HDD, can someone recommend a big, cheap, reliable hard drive?
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby camp_bell » 24 Jun 2016, 09:55

You can't really go too far wrong with hard drives, the current biggest ones are around 4 TB. Just get the biggest you can afford from a recognisable brand (Seagate, WD, Hitachi, etc).
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby Lemm314 » 03 Sep 2016, 17:17

You guys probably thought I wasn't serious when I said I was doing this. But in this square lump is exactly what I said I'd do. Beside my nice, shiny GTX 980 there is a Radeon R7 360.

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First, some background for anyone who's not aware; There seems to be a bug in rFactor based simulators which causes nVidia cards to throw a 'display driver has stopped responding' error, and it's been there for many years now. It manifests in game as a black screen for a short time, and then it usually resumes like normal a few seconds later... Usually. Sometimes it doesn't recover at all and the only way out is to kill the process with task manager. One thing's for sure, it seems to be track sensitive, as I've never had it at many tracks. But there's some specific tracks where it's happened multiple times. VirtuaLM's Le Mans 1991 for rF2 is probably the most famous example.

rF1 is affected, rF2 is affected, SCE is affected (see this year's Bon Anni), and I expect AMS is affected too (though I've not experienced it yet in that).

I did get some new info last night on this from a friend with a slightly overclocked 970. It may be possible to stop the problem from happening by increasing the voltage on your graphics card slightly, and that can be enough to stabilize it. That does suggest the voltages are slightly too low in these cards when they come from the factory (which does sound unlikely, I know), but it fits in with how overclocking generally works; increasing Ghz makes it unstable at high work loads, and that stability is regained by increasing voltages.

The first post in this thread supports this theory IMO, as pCars for this guy is perfectly stable at 90% GPU usage. rFactor 2 is also stable at that range, and only becomes unstable at near maximum usage, which is where the lack of voltage would cause instability. pCars only stays stable because it never reaches that point. Though it does mean the games aren't responsible IMO.

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I didn't go that route though, I only started looking into this theory last night. Instead, what you see through that window is the two graphics cards. The GTX 980 lights up and extends the longest, and sits nearest the CPU in the 16x PCI-E slot. As the stronger card, I figured it'd benefit from that more, so that's where it went. Especially since I intend to use that for everything non-rFactor related. And that puts the R7 360 in the PCI-E 4x slot.

My cable management and colour scheme rules me out of winning any "sexiest rig" competitions. The "coffee & cream" Noctua fan, red lighting on the motherboard and white light on the 980 don't exactly go together, and my cable management isn't exactly aesthetic either. But it works and it circulates just fine. :P The fan on the CPU heatsink pushes air away from the graphics card and out through a vent on the right side of the case (which also exists on the left). But thinking about it more, it should probably be pointed at the vent at the back, maybe with a fan installed there to help exhaust hot air and avoid dust entering through it. Oh well, I'll turn it around the next time it's due a clean.

The R7 360 on the left is a pretty humble card which I picked up the morning of GEARS Spa at my local Maplin for £100. I could easily have gotten it cheaper if I went online, but I wanted it for that evening. I'd been backed into a corner by my own short sightedness, as usual. :P It's not blowing anything away in benchmarks, and it doesn't handle GTA5 on max settings with dignity. But it does what I wanted it for just fine; not freezing into a black screen!

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It's not the smartest card ever, I think. You can see here the 980's fans aren't spinning because it's quite cool, just idling. They turn on automatically if it gets hot (and it turns them on one at a time). The 360 meanwhile just seems to have its fans on all the time... It's just idling in that picture, and had been for about 30 minutes. But it still wants its fans on.

Inevitably, there's more cables going around. The 980 is hungry and takes two 8-pin PCI-E connectors, which is both of the ones I have on my PSU. So for the 6-pin connector the 360 wants, I had to resort to an adapter. Power consumption didn't take too big a hit though, because these cards don't use much when idling. I've no intention of using them both at once, so I'll always have at least one idling. Right now my PC pulls around 300w during the GTA 5 benchmark through a 500w PSU. So I feel pretty safe there. :)

Having two graphics cards from two manufacturers running at once turned out to be quite easy in Windows 10 (not tried under Ubuntu yet). OSes seem to have been progressively sandboxing programs more and more over the years, drivers included. So we're now at a point where you don't even need to reboot for updated graphics drivers. I guess that same thing has kept the two separated, because making them both work was as simple as installing the drivers for both and making sure they're both plugged into a monitor. I have HDMI cables going from each one to the same monitor, and I swap the source on the monitor depending on which card I want. It's kind of annoying having the PC 'pretend' to have 3 monitors. But mirroring the screen across both stopped me from being able to choose different cards in the graphics config for rF2/SCE/AMS and other games, which defeats the reason I did this in the first place.

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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby KJP93 » 14 Nov 2016, 15:51

Back in May I made some pretty substantial upgrades to my PC, namely a 6th generation i5 6600k (I was running a 3rd generation i5 2300 until then.) and a far superior motherboard compared to the £40 solution I originally went with. It took a while to realize just how ancient the GTX 660 sat in my rig was relative to everything else, so now that I've actually got money...

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...I've gone and bought a thing. One GTX 1060. (plus an additional 1TB hard drive, but who cares about that. :P )

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Farewell GTX 660, you have served your purpose well. *salutes*

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In all its plastic-wrapped glory. (Yeah I peeled that shit off in one, it was extremely satisfying.)

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In she goes, probably the least hassle I've ever had when doing PC builds/upgrades. I didn't even shout at anything! It's not winning any cable management awards but my laziness overrides my OCD, plus it hasn't combusted yet so it can't be that bad. :P

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Back in the corner, working like a charm. I decided to hook the G27 up and drive around in rFactor 2, went for my wonderful DHR R18 around the AC Spa Francorchamps on the absolute maximum settings with 30 AI.

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Yeah it checks out. The thing didn't even break a sweat. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and lose myself in Elite: Dangerous on ultra (nearly) graphics settings. :D

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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby GremlinWon » 16 May 2020, 19:23

My Logitech DFGT gave up today after probably 10 years of ownership? (Major tank slapper on DR2.0 in an mk2 escort saw me push through the locks and geared ffb...RIP).

Good budget recommendations? Was thinking of moving to Thrustmaster to get belt driven FFB instead of a heavy geared FFB that the logitech wheels provide.
I've been impressed with my friends T150 on his PS4. The only thing I would miss on this wheel is the sequential shifter though which acted as handbrake.
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby artanonim » 16 May 2020, 19:34

GremlinWon wrote:I've been impressed with my friends T150 on his PS4. The only thing I would miss on this wheel is the sequential shifter though which acted as handbrake.


Have been using the T150 for two years now and it's been serving me perfectly fine. A few noises have come up in the wheelbase that I'm not exactly sure the source of, but the only failure of any kind that happened was me breaking off a small plastic bit holding the pedal cable in its wheel slot by jamming it in too harshly. A definite recommendation from me, just make sure to get one with T3PA's instead of whatever the cheap Thrustmaster pedals are, plus they do offer a standalone shifter.
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby GremlinWon » 18 May 2020, 06:41

artanonim wrote:A definite recommendation from me, just make sure to get one with T3PA's instead of whatever the cheap Thrustmaster pedals are, plus they do offer a standalone shifter.


What's so good about these pedals? Seems daft having a clutch pedal with no shifter. Which brings me onto that, it's £150 for just the shifter! About £90 used & abused. That's 4 Pilot Sport 3s on my car I use for motorsport at that price.

I'm definetley considering it though having used my friends.
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Re: Gaming Rig

Postby Sam Hill » 18 May 2020, 12:24

I just got the pedals and shifter together for 160 new. Much better than the Logitech set.
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